Discussion Post: Frozen the Movie

Last year (isn’t it cool we can say that now?), Faye and I watched Frozen and fell in love, just like almost everyone else out there. With it’s amazeballs soundtrack, lovable characters and awesome sauce message, it was hard not to. Faye and I discuss the movie here on the blog today.

Faye: So, Rashika, tell me of the last Disney Princess movie/musical before Frozen that you loved and enjoyed.

Rashika: I’ve loved a lot. Disney Princess movies are my thing. I may not be 7 anymore but that don’t mean I cannot enjoy meself a good Disney movie. But seriously. Tangled was really fun but I think my favorite Disney princess movie, aside from Frozen (which is at the top)… would be.. umm.. The Princess and the Frog. The soundtrack was soooo amazeballs.

Faye: Ahhh, The Princess and the Frog. I also enjoyed that one a lot. But yes, as you said, Frozen has kinda toppled the rest. I sing the songs in it all the time and I’m so obsessed! Did you watch it in the theatre? I remember crying buckets in the first ten minutes. Oh, my heart…

Rashika: Iasdnasjdl I watched it in the theatre and I cannot even. It was so beautiful. I am head over heels in love Kristoff the movie.

Faye: Kristoff is definitely awesome. He only had one freaking song (and so short, too!!! Such injustice!!!) but his voice was swoon (although Hans totally captured me with his complete harmonization with Anna in Love’s an Open Door). But honestly, they were all likeable (well, except the villain of course). My favorite would definitely be Elsa, though. You??

Rashika: ahh Reindeers are Better than People. Kristoff charmed me to no ends, he walked in with his smelly, reindeer loving, socially impaired self and I couldn’t help but fall in love. My favorite song has to hands down be Fixer Upper. I am in the minority, obviously, but I cannot help but love it. Moving on, I have to say, the comparisons between Tangled and Frozen annoy me. The two movies are completely different (and Frozen has a more swoon worthy hero and a more relatable female lead).

Faye: I guess that can’t be avoided as they’re both two of the most recent 3D Princess movies Disney has released, and both captured the audience’s hearts, although whether or not Frozen has a more swoon worthy hero and a more relatable lead is debatable :P In a way, I related more to Rapunzel, but I definitely felt more for Elsa and Anna. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think this is the first time Disney truly showed sisterly bonds, yes? There was just something about their strained relationship that truly got to me that Tangled could never make me feel.

Rashika: I just have to say that no one gives Brave enough credit. Brave is truly unique when it comes to Princess movies. It has no romance but focuses primarily on the love between a mother and a child. The two share a somewhat strained relationship as well if I remember correctly. But their relationship got to me in a way Frozen wouldn’t simply because I have a sister and I know they can be a huge pain in the ass (.. some people might disagree but they don’t know MY sister). I loved Rapunzel but Anna was so much more real, if that makes any sense. Rapunzel had a naivety about her that sometimes made it hard to relate to her but with Anna, you can understand. And with Kristoff, I loved him because of his awkwardness. None of the Disney ‘princes’ have been as awkward as him and awkwardness can be incredibly charming if done right ;)

Faye: Anna is cool, but IMO I felt Elsa had more complexity (and I’m really sad she didn’t get as much screentime). Having lived all her life fearing her powers, fearing of hurting the ones she loved, she willingly isolated herself in order to protect them. Her being distant hurt my heart a lot, and when she finally made her peace with herself in her Let it Go song, my heart soared out of pride. I was so happy to see her finally seeing her powers as something beautiful and nothing to be afraid of. And then that scene again when she found out Arendelle was in “deep, deep, deep, deep shit snow” broke my heart all over again as she said “I’m such a fool I can’t be free… Can’t escape from the storm inside of me…” UGHHHH FEEEELS

Rashika: LOL. As an older sister myself, I actually thought I would sympathize with Elsa more and I did to a certain degree but I am actually glad the story was about Anna and not Elsa. I like how Anna isn’t special. I like how she is basically ordinary and tends to do things on the spur of the moment, she doesn’t take time planning things out. It’s so much easier to relate to her in that sense. Elsa’s story is downright heartbreaking and while you can most definitely empathize with her, it is harder to forge a connection with Elsa. Perhaps that could also be because she didn’t get as much screen time.

Faye: I’m not sure about it being a story about Anna. For me Anna wasn’t the highlight, Anna and Elsa were, the relationship between them were, while mocking a few well-known tropes along the way.

Rashika: The relationships in the movie in general were a highlight IMO. I think I knew this was the movie for me when they mocked love at first sight. *fans self* I loved the emphasis on all kinds of love instead of just romantic love. The love between friends, family and perhaps a special someone ;)

Faye: I’m also kind of glad this movie went beyond the usual we expect from Disney, and how it brought about the message that parents aren’t always right and they make mistakes. From what I noticed, when they were kids, Elsa had complete control of her powers. It only got a little out of hand and she accidentally struck Anna. And it was only when her parents believed she should suppress it, that she should “Conceal, don’t let it show” that it only went haywire, and the sisters’ relationship paid the price.

Rashika: I definitely agree with what you said but I think it was also fear that made it harder for Elsa to control her powers. With her parents emphasizing how she needed to be careful to not hurt those around her, and her own fear of hurting someone she loved again, she became a mess and it became harder for her to control her powers. Or perhaps it was simply because she grew stronger :P I think they did mention that right?

Faye: Exactly, Rashika. It was the fear that resulted from her parents. If you force someone to let their powers not be shown, you are teaching them to fear it. Remember what the troll said in the first parts of the movie? That it was fear that would consume you. I’m sure the parents didn’t mean to instill that into her, but that was a consequence. They didn’t teach her how to control, they taught her to conceal. But that’s just my interpretation anyway :P

Rashika: I think that’s what sucks. I am sure they meant well but they just didn’t know any better. Honestly, I was kind of curious about how she got her powers O_O Her parents didn’t have any, how’d she end up with them?

Faye: I’m not sure, nothing was really confirmed.  At first the father said she was born with it, and then later on, in For the First Time in Forever (Reprise) Elsa said, “I can’t control the curse!” so I’m not sure either .-.

Rashika: WHAAT a curse??? DUN DUN DUN DUN. I wonder if they’re going to make a sequel. I couple of the earlier Disney movies do have them *pulls on fake beard*

Faye: I kind of wish they do and I kind of don’t. Frozen wrapped up so nicely with the Act of True Love thing (that made my eyes teary again). So, okay, to wrap it up, why don’t you tell me what song in the movie do you think would sum up your life. HAHAHA.

Rashika: LOL. I wouldn’t watch the sequel if they made one. I have a ‘thing’ against sequels. Like umm, I tried watching the Despicable Me sequel and gave up :P OH the song that would sum up my life.. um.. um.. *scratches head*

Faye: Okay, maybe not “sum up” but I guess would be very relevant to your life??? Or is that the same thing? LOL

Rashika: I am still thinking LOL. I think the song that would work best in this case would be Frozen Heart. I think the whole scene when Frozen Heart is relevant in some ways. I am probably looking too much into this but still. What would be the song for you?

Faye: I’d say For the First Time in Forever. All my life I’ve been overprotected by my parents cause I’m the only girl as I have three other brothers (I have curfews, I can only go out with friends if they will drive me there and if they will fetch me, I can’t go out to excursions with chaperones) and now that I’ve finally been given a wee bit more freedom with what to do with my life, I finally got the chance to see the beauty of the world. It’s wicked. Haha.

Rashika: My parents are actually that way with my sister. Since I am more responsible and they trust me more, they kind of let it go…. (LET IT GO). I am going to get my chance to see the world soon and I am not sure I am ready.

Faye: I say you will be! You’re a very headstrong person and I’m sure you’ll overcome all the challenges life will throw at you! Now, dear readers, what would you say is your Frozen song?

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  1. says

    I’d say my favorite was Let It Go, and Olaf(and Elsa). The thing is, I think the whole scary world fucking you up was for both the sisters- they are both duped and shit. And I think that was a very strong point for Frozen, drawing parallels between two diff lives, one magical and the other not.

    Rashika, I really did think Brave was unique but it was also kinda boring for me, although I totally got the princess. Who HASN’t wanted to animalize and gt rid of their parents every once in a while? :D But my fav part was the accent. Can’t beat that, absolutely not.
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    • FayeFaye says

      I agree, Brave was kind of boring. I actually didn’t finish the movie because of how bored I was… >< Which almost never happens because I have a huge love for animated films!

    • Rashika says

      I have to agree with you Stuti, I did think Brave was unique but it… didn’t measure on the same entertainment level as Frozen. :P
      LOL I love you for saying that. We all love our parents but gosh.. sometimes..

      • Rashika says

        Everyone sings the songs at my school. It’s getting to the point where I am pretty sure if one of us burst out singing we would all join along like some sort of High school musical scene :P

        You definitely have to watch it! :) It was so funnn

  2. says

    Aw guys, I’m left out again, lol! Do I really have this “Frozen wasn’t that great” vibe radiating off me? xD But oh dear God I can’t get Let It Go out of my head. And I have this one cousin who won’t stop singing Love is an Open Door, so it kind of stuck to me lol!

    Ah, Brave. One of the most annoying Disney movies I’ve ever watched. My favorites were the older ones though. Mulan’s probably my all-time favorite. ‘Cause she’s Chinese and I’m Chinese… Beauty and the Beast was totally swoon-worthy too. I thought Tangled was just okay (again, why are you guys leaving me?)…
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  3. says

    I LOVED LOVED LOVED Frozen mostly because it’s a movie about positive sibling relationships rather than just a romance about a girl and her prince charming, although Kristoff was most definitely better than any prince charming ever! And Olaf! <3 So much adorableness.
    I definitely agree about the songs. They are so catchy and so fun. I annoyed my sister with my terrible singing voice but I just couldn't stop singing those songs.
    Great post, ladies. I had fun reading this! :)
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    • Rashika says

      YAY!! THANK YOU NICK. No one understands why I love Kristoff so much. Hell a girl in my class even said she had a crush on Hans at the beginning O_O. But we both know that Kristoff is the best romantic interest Disney ever came up with ;)

      HAHA My sister and I just did ‘duets’ in our terrible singing voices and pretended we could actually harmonize as well as they did.

    • Rashika says

      Oh Jeann, you have some catching up to do. Both movies were great but Frozen was just… yeah :’)
      The movie did a really good job of it.
      It kind of made me want to watch Brother Bear again but Brother Bear was way too sad.

  4. says

    The curse thing is confusing because I’m like 99% sure that the parents said at the start to the Trolls that it wasn’t a curse but a thing she was born with or something. And now that you mention it, so true they never explained how she got her powers…

    You know what I found really interesting about Frozen? That they don’t have a love interest for Elsa! I mean, I seriously thought the sisters would be nicely paired off with Hans and Kristoff but it didn’t happen!

    My fav song would probably be Love is an Open Door. I just love how catchy the tune is :D And omggg I love the “I’m such a fool I can’t be free etc” bit in the For the First Time in Forever reprise as well. Sooooo gooooooood.
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    • Rashika says

      I am actually glad that Elsa didn’t have a love interest.. it would have been all perfect and happy happy and flowery (I am so talented with words). I actually thought that too in the beginning but once Kristoff came off, I could see that wouldn’t be happening :) I mean at that point I didn’t care if they paired of Elsa with Hans but Kristoff and Anna needed to end up together.

      YAY someone who’s favorite song ISN’T Let it Go! Love is an open door was loads of funn :D Me toooooo

  5. says

    I love the culture of Frozen more than the movie itself. And I think that you hit the reason right on the head – Elsa’s story would have made for a much better movie IMO. I thought Anna was too much like Rapunzel, but I also just thought that Tangled was so-so (oh, I can hear people yelling at their screens now). I have to say I loved Elsa and I related to her much more than I did Anna.

    Also, did you know that theatres are now doing Frozen sing-alongs?
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    • Rashika says

      I AM SCREAMING AT MY SCREEN! :P
      But I can see where you’re coming from, Rapunzel could grate on your nerves. :P

      THEY ARE?
      Damn. I wish there were cool theatres here. I’d join in sing alongs even though I hate singing in public (low self-esteem problems :P :P.. and no talent :P)

  6. says

    I can’t tell you how excited I got when I saw there was a whole post about Frozen on your blog. <3
    1) I loved Elsa and thought she needed more screentime too (also a bit biased because I've thought Idina Menzel was awesome since I was 10.)
    2) I really loved that Anna was ordinary (especially because I was recently talking about wanting to see more "normal" MCs).
    3) I am so torn about whether I want a sequel or not because on one hand it already had the perfect ending and Disney can go way wrong with sequels…but on the other hand, YES I need more of the characters (also, Kristoff needs to sing more in said sequel).
    4) I loved reading the conversation between the both of you, it was totally fun! :D

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    • Rashika says

      KRISTOFF SO NEEDS MORE SINGING. He had a wonderful voice ^_^
      I have no clue how they would pull of the sequel though. I’d want it to be from Anna’s POV because of my huge crush on Kristoff but I have no idea what else they could do.

      THANKS ALICE.